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Depression Counselor
Zakk Gammon, Ph.D, LCPC
Licensed Clinical Pastoral Counselor
2817 Veach Road, Owensboro, Kentucky 42303 | 270-926-6957
Having depression can be like trying to climb out of a well. It's dark, and dreary, and the sides of the wall are just to slick for you to be able to get a grip on the sides long enough to crawl your way out. Honestly, if you weren't so exhausted from thrashing around in the water trying and trying to claw your way out, you could probably yell for someone to help you by throwing down a rope. But nobody understands that. They just sit there staring at you from above asking why you're not climbing out. You just don't have the energy left to explain to them how they need to give you a rope. But life doesn't have to be lived at the bottom of the well. There is healing. And there is hope.
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Depression Counselor
Kevin Fleming, Ph.D.
Coach/Change Agent/Consultant
At Home or Private Discreet Intensives
Grey Matters International, Inc. and the work of Kevin J. Fleming, Ph.D. handles depression and other emotional disorders in a very unique way. Most of therapy or counseling processes utilize validation, unconditional positive regard, and reframing as common techniques to get someone to heal from their depression. Though this can be helpful, it rarely fixes the core problem behind it and for tough cases we then refer them usually to a psychiatrist for medication which can have tons of side effects. Instead, why not try a natural and arguably more effective way to not just change your mind, but change the brain--where the depression is rooted. Contact us at kevin@kevinflemingphd.com.
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